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Many of you probably remember the story told by Tiffany Hartley over two years ago now. She told of the nightmare of being chased by pirates on Falcon Lake in Mexico while they were sightseeing and riding their jet skis. David Hartley protected Tiffany, and was fatally hit by gun fire and died. Tiffany tried to rescue David, but couldn't do it and was forced to flea. She said the pirates cornered her, but let her go.
I've always found Tiffany's story inconsistent and full of hot spots.
According to news outlets, the Mexican authorities have made an arrest of one of the top Zeta drug cartel leaders who controlled the area and is believed to have killed over 200 people. Police in Mexico are blaming him for causing David's death.
Sigifredo Gonzalez, sheriff of Zapata
County, Texas has always believed in Tiffany's innocent and he is now saying, "Based on the information I have, he may
have been the one responsible for that area, but not the one responsible
for the actual killing," said Sigifredo Gonzalez, sheriff of Zapata
County, Texas.
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Tiffany Hartley defies all that we know about emotional understanding as she recalls painful, scary and stressful events the day she saw her husband get killed, yet she is eerily missing any emotional recall.
When people are truly sad, we know they produce oblique eyebrows. In simple terms, it means your eyebrows knit together into an "A" shape above your nose. In fear, our eyes widen and our mouth pulls back. Even months and years after a tragedy, most people will show flickers of true and genuine emotional recall when talking about an emotional experience.
Yet when we look at Tiffany, she is eerily missing genuine indicators of sadness and she doesn't express any fear. Tiffany has not displayed them when talking about her husband since his death (in the interviews I have seen). It's a notable red flag. Tiffany shows very few true indicators that she was shocked, stressed, saddened or afraid by what happened. When we watch her family members, however, the indicators are overly abundant, as we would expect.
People could argue in defense of Tiffany that she is emotionally in shock, but shocked people do not talk so freely about the horrifying details of the event like Tiffany does, because shock means they cannot accept what happened. Clearly Tiffany can talk about everything, including the bullet hole to her husband's head that she found, up close and personally.
When people feel genuine emotions, science has identified that we all react the same. We all use the same muscles and those muscles often cannot be voluntarily contracted for most people. Even more interesting is that when we fake emotions, we don't realize we are giving away tell-tale signs that we aren't really feeling what we say we are feeling.
This is a fascinating interview because Tiffany is a classic example of this. She can recall seeing her husband being shot and killed, and she even recalls having a gun pointed at her and her life threatened, but she has no emotional reaction. No sadness, no fear, no stress, no anger...nothing. Biologically, it doesn't make sense unless Tiffany feels something she isn't telling us.
TIFFANY'S SLIP OF THE TONGUE
Furthermore, in this interview, Tiffany Hartley self-censors herself and what she says is fascinating. It's a subconscious slip, a leak, if you ask me. She says, "I think it just hasn't hit me. It just seems like how on earth......did we d-- this happen? It just doesn't seem real. It seems like it hasn't connected...in my brain."
Did it not appear that she censored herself from saying, "How on earth did we dothis?"
Do this? What did Tiffany and David do? Did they pull something off? Why would she be leaking this?
I personally (in my own opinion) do not believe Tiffany Hartley has told us the truth about what she knows happened that day. I have said that from day one and I still will say that I have yet to see one interview with Tiffany that isn't littered with hotspot after hotspot after hotspot.
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Tiffany Hartley went to the Colorado capital yesterday to put pressure on public officials to bring David's body home.It's been six months since David Hartley was allegedly killed in Mexico while the couple was jet skiing on Falcon Lake, a notoriously dangerous area.
Recalling the past six months, Tiffany strangely says, "It's gone so fast, I can't even believe we're at six months."
As usual, Tiffany reacts completely different than most people. Most people when they have gone through a tragedy don't feel like time has flown. It usually stands still as they grieve and cope with their loss, but for Tiffany, oddly, time has flown by. It makes you wonder if she has been having fun? You know the old saying, "Time flies when you are having fun." Hard to imagine.
Tiffany has given different accounts of what happened that day in the various interviews she have given and they definitely have my eyebrows raised high. I feel something is off.
I was glad to hear that according to this news report, the FBI says this is currently an ongoing investigation.
To read all of my thoughts on this case, click on the label below, and scroll down to read the first post as posts are in reverse chronological order.
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National Georgraphic has a show on tonight that Eyes for Lies reader, UFO, suggested. I think many of you may want to watch it. It features Tiffany Hartley.
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My ThoughtsHere are areas in the video above that flag me:
HOLT: If you could tell me a little bit about the memorial you have planned and how you hope it will allow you to achieve some closure.
Ms. HARTLEY: Well, we're going to celebrate David's life. That's the plan for Sunday. We are going to have a slide show,just kind of showing him growing up and who -- the man he became, and then I'm doing a slide show separate for David and I and our love story and where we began and ultimately where it ended from there. ...
Ms. HARTLEY:And it hasn't ended, it's just...
...
HOLT: Tell me where your expectations lie right now. Have you -- have you given up on the notion that someone will be arrested and prosecuted for killing your husband, or is your focus now on just getting his body back?
Ms. HARTLEY: It's just mainly getting David's body back. I don't really think they're ever going to find the person who did it. I mean, you have three boats and minimum of three people probably in each boat. So I think it's going to be pretty difficult to pin down who did it. We just ultimately want David back, and I'm very frustrated that Mexico, you know, hasn't really stepped up, and either has our government -- hasn't stepped up to get it done and just, you know, it just seems so easy to me, but I know there's legal stuff and everything. But it just seems like they're not doing enough.
MY THOUGHTS:
This is the first time I heard Tiffany say there were three boats with a minimum of three people in each. Notice she hedges with the word probably? I recall her saying there only two guys in the one boat that pointed a gun at her when she was supposedly in the water with David. This woman can't do a consistent interview to save her soul.
I was also taken by the facts she feels it would be easy to get David back! What does she know that we don't??? Or he she just rambling nonsense because she isn't speaking the truth. I suspect it is the latter, personally. Getting a body, if her story is true, back from a drug cartel is not an easy thing. I think anyone who believed the story could agree to that!
When Tiffany talks about the service on Sunday (yesterday) for David, I find her sentence structure odd, like she is about to talk about David in present tense again when she says, "who...the man he became." Was she going to say the man he is? Was that almost a slip of the tongue? She self-censored, that's for sure. Why?
And I am taken at how it causes her no grief to say "ultimately where it ended from there" as if she were talking about a road trip, and not her life and her husband's life. It's ridiculous!
Nothing about Tiffany Hartley squares with the truth in my eyes. Her words don't fit, her emotions don't fit, her behavior doesn't fit. Nothing that Tiffany does in my eyes supports the story she has given us!
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Tiffany talks about the memorial for her husband that will be held this weekend. It's interesting how she self-censors herself when she says it is to celebrate "who he...who he was". A reader, cts, pointed this out this morning, and they are absolutely right. Was she going to slip and say, "Who he is?" It sure makes you wonder!!
This supposed widow has no grief whatsoever and seems so content she can have her husband's memorial service and just get it over with already. Who cares about the body?! It's surreal and very suspicious, if you ask me. Tiffany has been suspicious from day one and there is not one interview out there with Tiffany where she doesn't drop hot spots like flies.
Cts also pointed out that Tiffany seems to get supercharged when talking about border issues. I absolutely concur. Is that because she wants to deflect everything away from her and focus on that instead?
I am glad to hear that Tiffany's case is a federal case in Mexico. I hope they get to the bottom of this, as well as the American investigators working on the case. While we haven't seen them, that doesn't mean they are not working on putting the pieces together.
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Tiffany Hartley has pinged me with hot spots since her very first media appearance and sadly, she hasn't given one interview to date where she isn't littering the ground with hot spots. This interview above is no exception.
Tiffany says, "I want people to realize this is going on in our backyard ...they don't have a clue....I didn't have a clue until we moved there."
Tiffany is telling us she had a clue after she moved back to the U.S., but still chose to go over to Falcon Lake? This is a huge contradiction. She furthers that contradiction by saying, "Honestly, we felt safe...until, I mean, until this last year. Things kind of started happening."
"Kind of" started happened? Is she downplaying that now?
Oops!!
These are common hot spots for a person who talks off the top of their head instead of talking from the heart and with truth. They say things that are completely contradictory.
She continues, "But we even knew then it wasn't anything to do with us. It was cartel against cartel. So we didn't have fear that day on the lake."
Tiffany wants us to believe she didn't know about the robberies that were reported on the news?
Does that even make sense? She's clearly talking out of both sides of her mouth!
Tiffany says, "But I want America and everyone to just kind of open your eyes to what is going on on the border."
"Kind of" is a hedge. Does she really want us to not focus on her, but on the border issues?
Where is Tiffany's first concern for the murder of her husband? Why is she not concerned about him? I have never met a grieving widow who puts border issues over her murdered husband--especially when his case hasn't even been remotely solved! He is supposedly still laying dead somewhere in either Falcon lake or on land, and she cares about border issues?
This is over-the-top ridiculous.
Tiffany tells us we are all focusing on what is going on across the ocean, but we aren't focusing on what is going on here.
Dear Tiffany: You are focusing on border issues and not the tragic, unsolved murder of your husband. It's an ironic parallel you make here. Am I missing something?
"The United States is giving money to Mexico. Well, why? If they are just going to be.... killing our people," says Tiffany matter-of-fact.
What about killing her husband?
She goes on, "Why are we supporting them to be negative to us?"
Negative? Murder is simply negative??
Tiffany says, "I want people to realize this is a big issue -- BIGGER THAN DAVID's DEATH."
Have you ever? It's like David an inanimate object, not her husband.
Something is so off in this case and I hope that we get to the bottom of it. I challenge anyone who is believing Tiffany's story to show me a video where she doesn't leak any hot spots. ____________
Dr. Phil has Tiffany Hartley on today's show, if you can still catch it!
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I'm curious to see Dr. Phil. Will he hit Tiffany head on with good questions or will he take the soft approach that she is a grieving widow?
One thing is for sure, in this preview, Tiffany's eyes are blood shot, and she appears distraught --which is the first time I have seen this since Tiffany has told us her husband was killed. Is it because of Dr. Phil or her husband? That's what I wonder!
To read my thoughts on Tiffany Hartley, click on the labels below and scroll down. My posts are in reverse chronological order. I believe Tiffany has not told us everything she knows to be the truth, and I have said that from day one.
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Tiffany's thinking is strange here. She says, "After everything happened was our day that we were going to come back, and the hardest part of all of it, is just leaving without him. And I'd rather him be next to me and be with me than having to all of this by myself."
She doesn't show normal thinking patterns. She talks oddly, doesn't she?
This woman is "off" no matter how you slice it. I do not believe she has done one interview where she didn't have numerous hot spots. I'd like to see this entire interview. If anyone sees it, let me know.
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Look at how Tiffany Hartley responds when Andersen Cooper asks her how she's been holding up. She can't even conceal her smile. She says, "It's hard because I just want my husband back. That's all that I want." As Tiffany says that is all that I want, she shakes her head no, ironically. Her facial expressions, body language and emotions are not matching her words at all. She is extremely inconsistent.
Tiffany Hartley talks about being afraid of being arrested again and this time she says it was because originally the Mexican authorities didn't believe her story. But now she says she doesn't fear that.
I can't believe that Tiffany would talk about getting DNA. That has to be the strangest thing ever. Would DNA give Tiffany peace? Or would it help her in her mind prove her innocence?
Tiffany can't get enough of the media spotlight. That's for sure. I feel for David's family.
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Tiffany Hartley can't give an interview without contradicting herself. We could make this the theme of the day: What will Tiffany say today that is contradictory?
It's sad, very sad.
In this interview, Tiffany says about her 16 hours of interviews, "Of course, hearing it over and over, and then reliving it over and over, it's very emotional. I've cried (flash of eye-squinting anger) several times."
What is so fascinating about this statement is that she doesn't connect her media blitz with having to "tell the story over and over again and reliving it."
Isn't that ironic?
The two (media interviews and the Mexican authority interviews) are totally separate for Tiffany and it makes absolutely no sense that re-telling the story to one versus the other would be any different, if she is a true victim here.
On one level, when it is fun, she loves to rehash it and talk about all the details, or she wouldn't have done dozens and dozens of interviews. And we've all seen her leak a gazillion smiles when she does it. But when she is being questioned by authorities, its not so fun then, so she complains.
She wants it both ways. I find that fascinating. You see, someone who is deceptive won't think that detailed, and that is how clues leak out. Her true feelings, which are much deeper than all the details she is giving us, paints the true picture of how Hartley feels and when we look at what she is really saying, it paints a horrifying picture for us...the odds that she is being honest are rock bottom.
Tiffany is convinced at this point, even after the interviews, if you ask me, that she is getting her message across and in her mind people are believing her.
I love how Tiffany looks everyone in the eye when she says, "I have absolutely nothing to hide." She is making a conscious effort here, if you want my opinion, to look everyone in the eye, which is a common trait of deceptive people, though it is not a certain tip-off by itself.
When Tiffany talks about leaving McAllen, she says, "I'm (suppressed smirk) the one that's holding everybody back." She gets joy out of that -- that she is the puppet master, apparently. She fights it again when she says, "That's me".
There is nothing about this woman that sits right with me. You can read my original assessment of Tiffany early in the game here. And when I say game, it sure feels like a "game". I believe she knows a whole hell of a lot more than she is telling us. I am wondering if David is alive and well somewhere at this point. What evidence do we have to say that he was killed? Do we have anything other than Tiffany's word, which is absolutely unreliable in my opinion?
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Why would Tiffany fear an arrest by Mexican authorities when she tells us she thinks the Mexican authorities buy her story? That makes absolutely no sense. Tiffany Hartely is full of contradictions on every level from emotional to logical to factual.
What I noticed in the last couple of videos I have seen of Tiffany is that David's family who stood steadfast beside her is missing.
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I was wondering if Tiffany Hartley would show any compassion for the investigator who was beheaded. I don't see any reaction worth noting, which I find odd. It doesn't bode well for her personality, sadly.
What is interesting is some of what Tiffany says about the investigator is true, I am sure and it can be used to gauge a baseline of her when she is honest. This interview is helpful for that...
You can read my original assessment of Tiffany Hartley here.
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I wonder if this beheading had something to do with the shootout that took place on Falcon lake last week.
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Here is another interesting video of Tiffany a reader pointed out last night. Tiffany talks of people in the boats who appeared "friendly" and "waved" at them.
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Tiffany Hartley speaks out again and again and again. Here is another interview from a Fox morning show.
What I find so fascinating in this interview is the reporter say to Tiffany something to this effect: Is it true that you knew there was risk involved and that your motto is no fear? Tiffany says that's true. Isn't that ironic? Last week, she said about her husband, "He would never put me in a position in danger and we hadn't heard anything, um, going on over there. We had heard of about the pirates, but we didn't know...we just hadn't heard anything recently."
Read moreWatch Tiffany shake her head in this interview and nod. She is all over the table as is her story.
When the reporter says, "They shot your husband in the back of the head?" Tiffany responds with a shockingly new response, "As far as I know."
WHAT? If she turned him over, she would know for sure he was shot in the head. Her statement clearly show she is doubting herself. Why would she doubt what she supposedly knows happened? This is a really big red flag.
When Tiffany responds to the accusations that the Mexican authorities don't believe her, watch how she sobs yet not one tear falls. "He was my rock. He was everything to me," she says.
She keeps licking her lips in this video. I suspect she has a dry mouth, which can come from being nervous. Why on earth would she be nervous if she has nothing to hide?
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CBS has an update to the Tiffany and David Hartley story today. A police dash cam "shows the Hartleys pulled over shortly before they went to Falcon Lake in Texas, which supports her story and time line," says the CBS report.
CBS also quotes the Zapata County Sheriff Sigifredo Gonzalez as saying, "There's no reason for us to doubt what she's saying. Our investigation is really for us to get a body." Furthermore, Gonzalez stated that he has no doubt that Tiffany is telling the truth. I mentioned that in my earlier posts. He stands convinced. Isn't that odd?
I find Gonzalez's insistence that everything checks out because of a dash cam video odd, frankly. How can be then vouch for what happened on Falcon lake after that time?
Maybe he has other evidence? It would absolutely shock me if he did. It would be mind-blowing, frankly, because Tiffany's behavior doesn't add up now matter what calculations you use.
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