Friday, May 7, 2010
George de la Cruz and Julie Ann Gonzalez
at 2:27 PM
(Photo courtesy of http://www.julieanngonzalez.com/)
Julie Ann Gonzalez disappeared in Texas after she visited her estranged husband, George de la Cruz, to pick up her daughter, who they shared custody of at the end of March. According to George, when she arrived, she wasn't herself. George said she then asked him if he could keep their daughter for the weekend. She hasn't been seen since.
Read more Julie's family has been on TV a few times hoping to get information because the police are saying they do not believe this is a case of foul play. However, Julie's car was found in a Walgreen's parking lot abandoned (not the Walgreens where she worked at), someone has used her credit card, and video surveillance identified that the person using it was not Julie.
I listened to George speak in this video above, and what he said has me curious to see more of him. I have highlighted things that are a red flag for me.
George said to Jane Velez-Mitchell :
Well, like I said, it was her time to come pick my daughter up, because, uh… like I said, we had joint custody and well she arrived … I was expecting her to go pick her up -- come and get her. Right. And …she came in, like I said I saw her …she was... ….different. Like I said I’d know I’ve been with her for at least four years, so I know when there is something wrong with her. And I tried talking to her -- I asked a question what’s wrong and she just said, well, I’m okay, don’t worry about it. So I just let it go, right. So like I said, “Here’s Leyla’s stuff and everything is there, so you want to go ahead and check , uh, check at it so you can make sure everything is there and you can take her.Has anyone verified that Julie's car was seen at George's house that day? George seems to say what appears to be a slip of the tongue when he says, "well, she arrived … I was expecting her to go pick her up.." You have to wonder, did George meet Julie somewhere else the last time he saw her, and expected Julie to go pick up her daughter somewhere else? Or did George not have his daughter and told Julie she was somewhere else? What George says here is awfully strange.
That’s when she told me, “Well, you know what? I got plans… uh…this weekend can you please take care of her?” I‘m, well, okay, yeah. And I said so when are you going to come pick her up? She says I’ll let you know. I’ll call you whenever I want her. But she said its going to be this weekend? And I'm like yes. So, I just said, I never thought anything bad was going to happen, cuz like I said, well okay, I’ll take her for a couple of more days, and whenever she is ready, she’ll call me to pick her up this weekend. So like I said, I didn’t expected nothing to come bad from this, until Saturday, that we find out she hasn’t contact no one. So like I said yeah...yeah, I kind of feel bad, because I was the last person, I should have done a little extra to find out if something was wrong, if there was something wrong cuz.... its gone a month and there is nothing....that we have heard from her.
Notice he talks in the past tense about custody. They "had" joint custody. Why isn't he talking in present tense--having custody?
I wonder does he always say "Right" after he says things. People who are deceptive often confirm their stories verbally out loud to themselves like this. However, if this is not George's native language, that could explain it. I'd need to know from those who knew George if this is normal behavior or not.
I thought it was strange that Julie would ask George to care for her daughter when in reports she was very close to her own family, and estranged from George. Julie's uncle said that Julie always went to pick up her daughter escorted and this time she didn't, and something happened. George called the police and reported Julie for abandoning her daughter after she left this day, which shows the two were not getting along, according to George himself. Furthermore, George supposedly called the police according to her uncle (on the same show, different segment) and said her family was harassing him when they were posting missing posters in his neighborhood. George didn't deny this in the interview. George attempted suicide when Julie decided to leave him. Knowing all of this, it makes little sense Julie would voluntarily leave her daughter with him longer than she was required.
I find it even more unusual that Julie would say, "I will call you whenever I want her." That doesn't sound like something a mother would say--especially to someone she appeared not to trust. It's unusual.
I find it odd how George says, "But she said its going to be this weekend? And I'm like yes." Notice how he got who said what mixed up here? If he is recalling something from memory, I wouldn't expect this to happen. You have to wonder did he say that to Julie that he wanted to keep the child for a few more days? Did Julie ask him if it was going to be this weekend and he said "yes" as he says. People usually don't get facts like this so badly messed up without reason. Why aren't the things George is saying making sense?
George says he "kind of" feels bad. This is what I have coined hedging. Either he feels bad or he doesn't. "Kind of" is notable for me. I've heard him use this a few times. It's a red flag for me.
And last George says, "if something was wrong." When I have watched him in small snippets in other interviews, he is pretty insistent something was wrong. He used the word "despondent" when describing Julie in another interview. That's a change from his statement here. What caused that change? Why is he confident in one interview and not in another? If he doesn't know anything, I would expect him to be consistent, but this is not. Why is he not consistent?
Furthermore, George gives us very few details of their last meeting. He doesn't talk about greeting Julie, how she interacted with the child, how they parted, or any other details of their conversation. The details are few and sparse, and only pertain to what George wants us to know. I'd expect some extraneous information, but there is nothing. Imagine describing the last time your saw your mom. What would you say?
I'd like to see George tell us verbatim exactly what happened that day down to the details. That would be an important interview for me.
At this point, George interests me and I'd like to see more. He raises my eyebrows. Please know George de la Cruz is not a suspect a the time this was published.
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* Thanks to Donna for the story.